Celebrity Reach Can Open Doors, but Venture Returns Still Depend on Picking Winners
Jake Paul argues that a large audience can help founders reach customers, but cannot replace a good product—and that chasing attention can reward spectacle over substance. Alex Pall describes Mantis, the venture firm he co-founded with The Chainsmokers, as a supporting investor whose visibility and relationships can help companies, though that profile can also put off institutional investors. The discussion ties access to a broader test of value: whether an investor’s contribution or a company’s rising valuation reflects stronger business performance.
All-In Podcast·Sep 30, 2026·16 min read